I went to Mickydolenz.com today I find it sad Micky has fallen in with other celebs on showing there public support for politicians. I know this will probably
get a lot of people upset and such. I don't mean for it to happen. I honestly don't like the whole idea. I wouldn't care who a celeb supports, I
don't want to hear it for any side(even if they support someone I support). I didn't like what the Dixie Chicks did or what Toby Keith did. As much as
I hate to say it I find it in poor taste.
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Posts: 8659 (04/04/08 4:05 PM) Rev. Nora |
Well, I wouldn't base my vote on a celebrity endorsement, but it's Micky's right to put it on his website. (Of course, I support the candidate he
does, but even if I didn't, it wouldn't upset me). Just my humble opinion.
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Posts: 24980 (04/04/08 4:38 PM) Maharishi of Music |
No matter what,celebrities are in the public eye. They influence fashion trends,food trends,music trends and so on. So when any celebrity announces that he or
she has chosen a candidate for President,it's going to make news. The popularity of that celebrity determines how much of a media impact is made.
  
  
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Posts: 11 (04/04/08 5:54 PM) |
I think it's great that Micky and other celebrities have an interest and a voice in our nation's political discourse. I don't think it's a
surprise to anyone that Micky is throwing his support for a Democratic nominee, and as an Obama supporter, it makes me very happy on a personal level:)
http://www.psycho-jello.com/monkees
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Posts: 8663 (04/04/08 6:07 PM) Rev. Nora |
Micky is also a product of his generation. Although I'm not sure of the exact figures, I've heard that boomers are (still!) more inclined to be
politically active/astute than other generations. There are many exceptions to that of course, and I proudly count myself among them!
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Posts: 1532 (04/04/08 7:55 PM) Micky Mod |
All I have to say about this is, it's Micky's site and it's his decision to support Obama. It's like if anyone else wanted to put up Clinton
support on their site. Go Micky.
fd
Life is just a dream, you know, it's never ending....
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Posts: 24984 (04/04/08 9:01 PM) Maharishi of Music |
Speaking of "Baby Boomers",I was watching VH1 yesterday and saw Ray Manzarek (from The Doors) in an interview and he said,"Timothy Leary had it
wrong when he said 'Turn On,Tune In & Drop Out'. It should of been 'Turn On,Tune In & Take Over'." Words of wisdom from
Mr.Manzarek.
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Posts: 185 (04/05/08 11:53 AM) |
I think there is a valid point here-- is Micky's support of a specific candidate going to influence the decisions of his fans or others? And, if so, is
that why Micky is open about who he supports? I don't know the answer to these questions. However, the implication is that Micky, being a celebrity, has
more power and influence than others out there, and someone has brought up that perhaps it is in "poor taste" that he "use" that power to
influence others.
Perhaps, however, he is not intending it to come off that way. Would it be any different if anyone else, say myself or anyone on this board, announced who they were voting for, just because they wanted to show how much they supported that candidate? If anyone feels strongly supportive of any candidate or any cause, is it wrong to express it to others? Always having unconventional views and my political opinions ranging from radical to conservative depending on each issue, I have personally felt more comfortable not expressing my views publicly. However, I don't think it's wrong if someone else is confident about their opinion and wants to express it, celebrity or otherwise. |
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Posts: 8669 (04/05/08 12:59 PM) Rev. Nora |
I think of it as really being no different than someone having a lawn sign or bumper sticker on their car. But hey, that's just me.
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Posts: 24988 (04/05/08 1:35 PM) Maharishi of Music |
I decided to support Obama long before finding out that Micky supports him,too.
I think,SJB,that you have a really good point. That indeed there are fans of Micky,or any celebrity for that matter,that will choose a candidate just because their favorite celebrity chose that person. I could never understand how people could do that,though. People have to decide on their own,but I know some don't do that and look to others for an opinion.
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Posts: 4177 (04/05/08 2:25 PM) HEY NICE LAAADY! |
I think of it as really being no different than someone having a lawn sign or bumper sticker on their car. But I think the difference is that he posted the video on a website that is dedicated to his fame and celebrity status, a site that was created to attract his fans. He can easily be seen as just another celebrity using his fame to try to influence people because of where he advertised his support. He certainly has the right to post the video anywhere he pleases, but I can understand why kennythemonkeefan and others might find his actions distasteful. |
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Posts: 2192 (04/05/08 3:07 PM) The Divoon Miss M |
What Micky chooses to post at his own site? His decision. And it's my decision what parts of the site I take and which I leave. No harm done. As for this site here, actually, I get the impression that political discussion is discouraged. If it were encouraged, it wouldn't be the same type of site that lured me here in the first place, and that would be a shame. But since so many here felt encouraged to wear their candidates on their sleeves due to an issue of opinion on Micky's page, let me just say during a moment of temptation within the last two or three weeks I was disappointed to discover upon research that the domain name "www.theyallsuck.com" was already taken. 
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Posts: 8672 (04/05/08 3:24 PM) Rev. Nora |
LOL, Molly! Hey...you could run! Molly for Prez!
Yes, political discussions are discouraged here because it's a dicey subject, and also distracts from the fun-loving atmosphere of the board. My point
was that it's Micky's first-amendment right to put what he wants on his website. I would hope that the majority of people would not vote for a
candidate just because his/her favorite celebrity is doing so.
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Posts: 1533 (04/05/08 4:24 PM) Micky Mod |
To be honest, a discussion like this shows a strong character or two in the people here. Yes, we're all about the fun-loving zany Micky but it's nice
to know that even he is up for a political debate. And if you look now, he's got BOTH Obama & McCain on his website.
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Posts: 24999 (04/05/08 5:32 PM) Maharishi of Music |
I just went to his site today and you're right. He now has both.
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Posts: 8673 (04/05/08 5:51 PM) Rev. Nora |
I guess he's not taking any chances
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Posts: 4177 (04/05/08 9:03 PM) Mr. Smarty Pants
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But you know, this may be making a statement in and of itself. Far too many people in this nation take the right to voice an opinion by voting way too lightly.
Perhaps by posting information for both parties, Micky is encouraging people to learn about the issues, make an informed decision and let your voice be heard
when it comes time to vote.
Shane
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Posts: 186 (04/05/08 9:32 PM) |
Whether Micky's posting his support for any candidates is distasteful or not, if a fan chooses something as serious as who they vote for as president based
solely on Micky's support of that specific candidate... I think that says more about that fan than about Micky. I don't think anyone wants that, and I
don't think that's why Micky would put that there. I think Micky just wants to show a variety of things on his site that are both a reflection of
himself, and are accessible conversation topics for others. His specific choices in candidates being one of them.
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SleepingJeanBeauty wrote: I'm having a terrible time with posting tonight! I keep goofing up. Time to go to bed.
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Posts: 2668 (04/06/08 12:28 AM) Mistress of the Marathon |
NoraLou wrote: That's how I feel about it too. I also agree that it would be absurd for any fans to vote for a political candidate based solely on the fact that he or she is supported by a celebrity they like. On the other hand, if knowing that a particular candidate is endorsed by their favorite celebrity would cause some people to do more research about that candidate (and others) in order to make their own decisions about them (as Shane suggested), then that could be a positive contribution to the democratic process. Personally, I try to steer clear of political discussions on ML, but I don't think the topic of this thread is itself political even though it is referring to other people's political choices. I hope that made sense. 
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Posts: 8680 (04/06/08 12:51 AM) Rev. Nora |
I was telling my husband that Micky had links to both sites on his website and he said, "Well, take a look at our yard." Sure enough, since we
support two different candidates, we have two different lawn signs!
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Posts: 607 (04/06/08 4:59 AM) GOMOTB |
Ok so Micky has candidate links.
I agree.... Celebrities voices do carry a lot of weight but as I think it has already been mentioned here that if a person votes for any candidate just because their favorite celebrity, whomever that may be, endorses or supports a certain candidate then that person is a huge fool and doesnt think for themselves. People need to stop following "the crowd" being willing sheep, and take the time to reasearch, read and learn all they can about the potential candidates and their positions. They also should take time to learn how our goivernment and the electoral process works because frankly I don't think outside of political science classes in colleges, American Government is not taught very well these day in high schools and it should be. Peopel take too much stock isn sound bytes and media clips and whatever mainstream media is presenting as "truths". Folks, Please do yourselves a favor, Take the time out to learn about who you would like governing our/your country. Read the Constitution and the Bill of rights and other precious documents and match what they say against what these candidate are promising. Please take the time to become well informed. Thy one person you like may not be all that! We talk about the lesser of 2 evils. Heres a clue. Whomever gets elected is going to carry their own style of evil into the office and no one of them is going to be able to deliver everything what they promised. Beware of promises. We need to wake up and hold our elected officials accountable instead of just rolling over and allowing them to runroughshod over us, no matter what party they belong to. The preseiden as well as the congress kritters and senators. My 2 feathers worth. "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out
how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the
arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without
error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the
triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and
timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt..."Citizenship in a Republic,"
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Posts: 331 (04/06/08 5:58 AM) |
Amen BD! And please people do not preach to me again about saying God Bless in my posts. Do the research, make informed decisions, and use the mind that you
were blessed with in the first place. Amen! I love it. Thank you BD!
I agree BD and God Bless You for posting that.
Love always, Cheri
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Posts: 25015 (04/06/08 10:24 AM) Maharishi of Music |
I think it's comforting to have a person say "God Bless" at the end of their posts.
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Posts: 138 (04/06/08 1:05 PM) Globetrotter
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Eh, celebrity endorsements, even of celebs I ♥, mean zilch to me. I don't go to Micky's site that often, so I probably would not have even noticed the
political links. I think Nora said it best already, it is akin to having a bumpersticker on your car or a sign in the yard if you are a supporter of some
candidate. Some celebrities are more political than others when dealing with the public, I don't recall Micky being particularly political in times past,
but to each's own.
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Posts: 335 (04/06/08 1:44 PM) |
Thank you Ray for saying you find it comforting in people saying God Bless at the end of their posts.
 to you. God Bless You Always!
Love always, Cheri
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