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Posts: 323 (06/30/08 3:48 PM) |
I am listening to this song. At first I dislike it but now I like it a lot.
I don't understand one line he sing. "I give up my beet ways" What is a beet way? Sorry if this ask before..but I never hear that phrase.
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Posts: 9429 (06/30/08 4:33 PM) Rev. Nora |
Li, I think it is "beat ways". "Beatniks" were kind of the predecessors to hippies.
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Posts: 26091 (06/30/08 5:46 PM) Maharishi of Music |
Makes you want to put on sunglasses and read poetry.
  
  
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Posts: 4519 (06/30/08 8:34 PM) Mr. Smarty Pants
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NoraLou wrote: And to quote another band, what a long, starnge journey it's been. Shane
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Posts: 9431 (06/30/08 9:49 PM) Rev. Nora |
When you think about it, we no longer have a name for rebelious youth.
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Posts: 324 (06/30/08 11:14 PM) |
Ah "beatnick" like the guy in the old Dobie Gillis' show
My friend, she thought it meant "ways like the Beatles with long hair". I learn something so new today thank you 
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Posts: 547 (07/01/08 12:29 AM) |
NoraLou wrote:
Sure we do, Nora, 'delinquents' could be used for that as well. 
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Posts: 9436 (07/01/08 1:21 AM) Rev. Nora |
Well, I'm not so sure that all beatniks and hippies were "delinquents". And of course the terms were pretty broad themselves.
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Posts: 26095 (07/01/08 1:23 AM) Maharishi of Music |
But times are different now as compaired to back in the 60s with the Beatniks. The rebellious youth of today carries guns into schools and is numbed when it
comes to violence.
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Posts: 548 (07/01/08 2:00 AM) |
And where do these rebelious youth get it from? Most likely, their parents. It's disturbing. My father works in abused children/family court and there are
sometimes 5th generations in there with the same thing over and over and over and over again. It's disturbing, very disturbing.
It's almost like the phrase goes, once an abuser, always an abuser. Horrible!
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Posts: 725 (07/01/08 5:50 AM) GOMOTB |
Li Sung wrote: That beatnik "GUY" was Bob Denver aka Gilligan from Gilligan's Island.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out
how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the
arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without
error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the
triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and
timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt..."Citizenship in a Republic,"
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Posts: 3421 (07/01/08 9:32 AM) FVB |
I wondered that myself, BD.....Shaggy has reminded me also of Maynard G. Krebbs.
Ya that's right Li Sung, the term is spelled 'beat'....and the Beatles spelled their name like that, with the 'a' instead of the second 'e' in reference to beatniks, didn't they? Also true that beatniks sorta morphed into the hippies...I think the original name was hipsters, which was another name for them by the time the 60's really got going. But there was something different between the two cultures, I can't remember what it was...does anyone know? Also true there isn't an official name for rebellious youth today....could it be because we of the baby boomer generation are the adults now, the original 'rebellious youth'? Hmm....actually the youth today rebel under the name hip-hop, though, come to think of it...
Rachael
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Posts: 26103 (07/01/08 10:09 AM) Maharishi of Music |
But it is a much more violent world now than it was back in the 60s,70s or 80s. Cheri,I want to add that while I agree with you about some kids' parents being responsible for their behavior,I don't feel the blame should be put only on the parents. In several cases of teen violence,I have seen where the kids anger did not stem from his parents,but from the fact that the kid was picked on at school by other kids.
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Posts: 3429 (07/01/08 10:22 AM) FVB |
....what I have seen is that some young people just can't get away from the influence of their peers...not quite peer pressure....more like going along
with who they call their friends. It's not being pressured into it, it's going with the flow of the others. And if the activities aren't so above
board, oh well, that's how they rebel..
That's definitely not a good thing though, but that's how it often is.
Rachael
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Posts: 26106 (07/01/08 1:00 PM) Maharishi of Music |
Sometimes a kid just can't take that kind of pressure.
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Posts: 325 (07/01/08 1:35 PM) |
But in case of the beatnicks, they were not the violent people really. In Dobie Gillis Krebs not violent or destructive in any way. He spoke different and he
was afraid to go to work. He dress more sloppy.
I don remember in my lifetime seeing or knowing someone who was beatnick. Now, hippie, yes I remember. Lots of colorful clothes, men had long hair like the girls had. Very confusing when you are so little like I was back then.
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Posts: 26107 (07/01/08 5:14 PM) Maharishi of Music |
Every once and a while I will see a movie from 1966 or 1967 and in it they will feature a scene or scenes with or about Beatniks. I have been writing poetry
for 27 years and I love it.
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